You can’t handle the truth on the regulack at XXL Mag Dot Com.
I was instructed by my boss’ boss to not go in on the Elliott Wilson situation, but since I exist at this site tenuously anyhoo I thought I would say something for the record. And Since rap records’ sales figures are in the shitter prah’lee no one will buy this drop by the time I’m done.
Keep it moving XXL mag dot commenters.
It’s just that simple. What the fuck do you care why Elliot Wilson isn’t here any longer? There’s no conspiracy. Sonn-dula just ain’t here. So what now? Are you gonna stop listening to rap music? Are you going to stop reading publications that talk about rappers? What in your life gets improved when you know where and why Elliott is?
That’s ho shit you are worried about. Don’t worry about Elliott. That nigga is doing better than all of us. Combined. I’ve got a column at XXL mag dot com and my ass is still eating tuna out of the can. Not even albacore sonn. Dark meat tuna. My cable got shut off over the weekend. I watched football at the Circuit City on Atlantic and Flatbush Avenues. I’m typing this shit from the public library at Grand Army Plaza. Meanwhile E Dubbz lives in a billion dollar penthouse condominium with Jay-Z and Common as neighbors.
Elliott Wilson is gon’ be aiight. First off, he’s lightskin and figures show that good hair negroes live life on the sweet side of the street. So you know he left Harris Publications with his dignity. Good hair jigs like Elliott and Keith Clinkscales always stay crispy. Not so much speaking of Vibe magazine, but have you seen E Dubb’s wife? How the hell did he bag that? He ain’t even a pretty lightskin nigga either. Sonn has hell’s game I guess so wherever he goes his shit is gon’ be aiight. XXL mag and this online bastard child will be fine too. So while all you ho ass niggas speculate on the whys and the wherefores you need to keep your shit moving as well.
If you work at Mickey Dee’s this is the year you get promoted to fries up from bathroom cleaning duties. If you already work on fries you have reached the ceiling for growth and you should move on up to Boston Market or some shit. Shouts to all of y’all in school now getting a degree in some shit that will keep you in debt until you are 34yrs old. What up to all the XXL dot commenters at their jobs now reading this shit. I’m just like y’all and when I get back home I am gonna take me some drugs and sip me some wine.
Elliott Wilson is gon’ be aiight. The rest of us? Not so much.
Elliot Wilson gets the Bozack.
He wrote a dumshit column talking about “When you think of Hip Hop photographers you think of (insert a young dick riders name who could not carry my camera bag or jock strap)” and when I called him and e-mailed him MF did not respond.
So yes E. W gets a special thick, well oiled, rigid Bozack. This is my life and I take it VERY SERIOUS. You diss me even by mistake and like a floppy eared bloodhound I will track your ass down and make your life unbearable and give you 10 years bad luck and get your hi yella ass fired from the only real job you ever had. Ernie Paniccioli
^ Ernie Paniccioli ain’t nothing to fuck with!
Oooooh, Dallas! What are you trying to say with that image? Fuck, there goes the neighborhood.
Damn….that is crazy how I use to work at both Boston Market and McDonalds. lol Dallas needs to run XXL. Oh shit.
Good for you, Billy X. What impact does it have on our lives WHY he isn’t in that job anymore? Sure the fact that he isn’t may change the dynamics of things over there, and it’ll mean a nice new job for a lucky person out in the world, but WHY doesn’t really concern anybody.
I said this to someone else the other day: it’s like Pimp C’s death. We still don’t know why he died (or maybe we do, but I stopped paying attention), but that doesn’t matter because despite the reason for his death, he’s dead. And he ain’t coming back. Keep it pushin.
and yeah, I’d say the world needs to watch out for Ernie.
So yes E. W gets a special thick, well oiled, rigid Bozack.
^^^ WHY it Got to be RIGID son, damn! *dies natural causes*
Ernie the Elder – WOW. I feel that 100%
In regards to EW I’m down for some Yalla-on-Yalla crime. I never had much use for dude. He mailed his integrity for the same shit he clowned The Source over. I mean the rotation between Marshall, Curtis, Minstrel Unit, Jiggerman, Sizzurp Slathered Prison Bitch Wang, and the dead rapper issue. It went from “Hip-Hop on a Higher Level” to “Sold To the Highest Bidder”. Hip-Hop Journalism is a sham for the most part and EW contributed to that. Thank (whatever religious figure you choose) for cats such as Ernie and other archivists who work to keep the record straight…
finally somebody said something. given how all you hip hop bloggers jump on all the latest scandal shit and nobody was talking prompted my original comment. I could give a fuck about how rich YN is or what he’s doing, but I was shocked none of you was gonna post about it.
any random Paniccioli photograph >> Eliott Wilson’s life
Thank for the love, and anybody that knows me knows it is not just talk. Peaceful and respectful as I try to be and try to maintain I will light that ass up. Fuck EW and all sellouts.
True story:
I was walking down Broadway when a bunch of Brothers from XXL saw me, invited me up to their offices and began to tell me how they were running shit, how they loved my book “Who Shot Ya?” and how they loved my work and “big Props to The Legend, Pioneer or whatever”. When I smelled the rank stench of bullshit and asked how I got put on with my legendary ass to get a photo shoot and some rent money they all started mumbling and said I had to deal with the Photo Editor. From their hushed tones I thought it was some grimy bad ass brother on some Mike Tyson, Kaiser Soze type shit and was like “oh fuck”.
Finally the Photo Editor walked in and all the mumblers fell silent. She was a little (about 5’3″) 20 year old White Girl who looked clueless to who I was, what Hip Hop was and even where her clit might be.
So once again, after years of them ignoring me, being cowards to White Folks and their blatant contribution to the colonization and dumbing down of Hip Hop I say “FUCK XXL” redeem your bitch asses by sending me a generous royalty check just for using the name Hip Hop in your ghey whigger magazines.
Ernie Paniccioli
TO Farouq Obama, fear not for the health of EW and all those magazine caddies and misc. lawn jockeys they have to get fist fucked on the regulak in order to keep their low pay jobs and get free Yung Jeezy T-shirts and Lil Wang remixed remix mix tapes.
But life is good for me, my one and only TV show “THE WIRE” is back and Omar (II) is about to light up some Baltimore Drug Dealers on some Black Robin Hood type shit.
And I just published “Four Decades of Artwork” By Ernie Paniccioli and the soon to be Legendary “Rap Pop and Soul Headshots” book. Available next week at http://www.lulu.com
Folks who claim to love Hip Hop best support me or I’ll come to your house and stick your dogs head in the toilet and plaster posters of Jermaine Dupri over your bed. Smile, Ernie Paniccioli
Here is a series of E-mails to Elliot Wilson and his wig brusher all unanswered from July of this year. Hopefully they helped his much mouth get fired.:
Dallas,,
Do you know Brandon?
Is he as much of a cunt as his silence suggests?
This Elliot character did not answer my e-mail. Bad mistake, now it’s personal, yes I am picking a fight.
30 plus years of earning a rep as a Hip Hop photographer and yes,
le(fucking)gend gives me the right to behave erratically.
These cuntlappers ( a word used far too often and usually in the wrong context) will catch fright if I roll up to 1115 Broadway with a pack of great big gnarly unwashed gorillas who have not taken their meds in three or four days and whose sense of humor is seriously skewed.
The real reason I’m fucking with him is to let him know there are those of us who take Hip Hop and our places in the hierarchy seriously and that have earned the right to say fuck you to colonizers who are trying to rewrite the script according to their own warped perspective.
Fuck XXL (sounds like the name for a condom) and XXL has never shown me any love, may they end up sinking under the weight of their own hubris and drown in the same sewer as David Mays and his wack ass Source. Ernie
———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Ernest Paniccioli
Date: Jul 19, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Hip Hop Photographer clarity requested-Ernie Paniccioli follow up.
To: brandon.edwards@harris-pub.com
Brandon,
Did you pass my e-mail to Elliot?
Hope you did, but I have not gotten a response from him nor you.
Maybe I’ll come around to introduce myself to you and him. Might be fun, I’ll even bring a couple of my more colorful friends. 1115 Broadway, say around lunch time? Set something up. If you don’t know, ask somebody about me. I’ve been out here for a very long time. Some might even say I’m a legend.
Ernie
On 7/11/07, Ernest Paniccioli wrote:
Brandon.
Please pass this e-mail to Elliot Wilson, I wrote it after reading an editorial of his that basically said that when he thought of Hip Hop Photographers he thought of
Jonathon Mannion.
I’d like him to explain to me how he “thinks Hip Hop photographer” when he sees the Nelly of Hip Hop photographers?
Elliot, I hope when you think Hip Hop Photographer you are deeper and smarter than to think Johnathon Mannion.
I should not even have to lay my credentials out on the table.
That is wrong on so many levels and you should know better.
Me, Jamel Shabazz, Joe Conzo and Ronnie Wright, Charlie Ahern, Martha Cooper, Henry Chalfant, Jeanette Beckman as well as one or two others have layed it down and kept it tight for decades.
I take it as a diss. It is like when Nelly stepped to KRS1. As Nas said to Jay “Negro Please!”.
I never saw Mannion at Zulu Nation events, at Rock Steady Anniversaries, in the streets, on tour in 88 with P.E. ,at Gang Summits or documenting all 5 elements for 3 decades.
This is my life and my legacy and I take it deadly serious.
Ernie Paniccioli
Here is a fraction of my credentials:
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“Who Shot Ya?-Three Decades of Hip Hop Photography”
Published 1992
“There’s A God On The Mic”-text Kool Moe Dee, photos Ernie Paniccioli
“The Other Side of Hip Hop-The Sixth Element” coming on DVD in October 2007
(This is a documentary on my work, art, life, photography and struggles as well as a brief history of Hip Hop Culture) featuring Chuck D, Afrika Bambaataa, MC Lyte, LinQue and many more.
KRS1 and Afrika Bambaataa call me “The God of Hip Hop Photographers”.
Kane, Nas and Ice Cube wrote that I was the best and deepest that ever photographed Hip Hop.
I was the keynote speaker for The Temple of Hip Hop at The United nations in 2001
In 2002 Afrika Bambaataa and I did an event at The New Jersey Performing Art Center called “A Conversation With the Elders”
In 2001 I had an exhibition called “100 Shots To Tha Dome” at The NYC Urban Experience Museum which was the largest one man photography show in NYC history. I have lectured in over 200 venues, colleges and events including a one hour forum on C-Span 2 called “Race and Hip Hop”
Have been documenting Graffiti and Aerosol Arts since 1974.
I have taught, school, mentored and influenced three decades and three generations of young people in fine arts and photography.
I am a father and grandfather and a respected Elder.
Ernie you are straight O.D.’g up in my piece.
I go out to party and you pulling out relic shit from your e-mail inbox.
Don’t let these spectators gass you up to spit shit. You and I already spoke on that previous situation. As it is niggas is fishing for a reason to slow my paper and you ain’t helping neither.
You said your shit from the gate. That was enough. You keep coming back like the court jester. If you hate that nigga with so much passion why don’t you make a book? Call that shit ‘I’m Ernie Paniccioli and I hate Elliott Wilson’. Put that shit up on http://www.LuLu.com too.
My point is that your personal rants ain’t helping you curry support at Harris and they ain’t helping me move silently while I’m there.
Hold tight old fella. Just cause you can say anything you want to doesnt mean you should say anything you want to.
Ernie went hard…damn.
Seriously though…..stay away from printing someone’s email address and shyt on the web without permission. Not a good look.
Whaddup Ernie, you going kinda hard 2day. Ease back big fella.
I would sincerely hope Paniccioli & everyone else could speak their mind freely, w/o worrying about censoring theirselves or keeping it “PC”.
If we can’t have freedom of speech on an internets blog, what is left of freedom of speech in the USA?
Dallas, how can someone shyt on you opportunity-wise for a comment another person made on ur blog? That is Bill O’Lie-ly-esque, when Bill blamed the Daily Kos as “like the KKK” because some of some random comments some cat made on the Kos blog.
Are the Elliott Wilson-aligned TI cats really that sensitive, bitchmade, & against freedom of speech? If so SMH at those Ralph Tresvant-ish over-sensitive douche bags.
EGC,
True story is that I know ghey niggas that keep it more gangsta than the industry faggots.
Let me add that I don’t know ghey niggas in that way [ll], and when I say faggot I don’t even mean a homosexual, but I am talking about a breed of men that take shit extremely personally with the utmost of sensitivity.
What did Ice T say? You have freedom of speech as long as you don’t say too much.
I honestly am having fun and laughing cause that dude got fired. Why? Because XXL is living proof of the old 60’s axiom “You are either part of the problem or part of the solution” and they claimed to be the alternative to The Sores, er The Source, then they violated and went on to be part of the same ol, same ol colonization and on the personal tip they never even fronted to show me even a drop of love.
No I don’t want to jam Dallas, but like ol boy said:
What I ( ERNIE P. loco native homie) say ain’t got shit to do with the opinion of the management (DALLASPENN.COM)
Or to quote my good brother KRS1 “Fuck these magazines leading Hip Hop off course” and you know I love this from El Gringo: “re the Elliott Wilson-aligned TI cats really that sensitive, bitchmade, & against freedom of speech? If so SMH at those Ralph Tresvant-ish over-sensitive douche bags.”, ouch, ouch, ouch and you say I’m raw dog? Damn, pass the Ether. Fuck it I ain’t going to bite my tongue, cloud the truth with bullshit or smile when I want to frown. Like my Jewish mentor used to say “Don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining”
If you’d prefer I just wont post. Can we take a vote on me not posting here? Peace, Ernie
^ Thx Paniccioli for the props. It means a lot coming from a community elder & World Class Etherologist like yourself.
Keep up your good work. I hope you can continue to drop comments here also.
The unexpected faux paus by D. Penn reminds me of the meaning and spirit of true journalism:
As the radical journalist Nat Hentoff once said “Free speech for me, but not for thee” and also spoke of the Tyranny of Majoritarianism” referring to activist groups who suppress dissent in their own ranks.
XXL is hardly worth the time spent posting about it. It is a Maxim knockoff with some influence from Vibe and The Source as well as Playboy. In other words not a real magazine, but a fetid rag that dabbles in fashion, gossip, T & A , rap starfuckers and starfuckees.
But the core ideal of free speech and the expression of ideas no matter how abrasive or caustic is worth ruminating on and fighting for even at the expense of a job. I could be working at Vibe if I kissed ass, grinned a lot and tolerated the (II) lifestyle and idiocy rampant at that quickly dying rag. Peace and love, and flowers in your hair and peace symbols tattooed on your ass crease. Ernie
Ernie, this simpleton grandstanding shit is beneath your stature. I am sure that Kool Herc bitches to his peeps the way you pitch a bitch to us.
Everyone needs any editor sometimes. Just a voice to tell them to fall back because they are overdoing their thing.
You don’t take editorial advice as well as I might have hoped.
I told you earlier not to let these internets niggas gass you up, but you steady getting gassed for no good reason.
What if the e-mail address you were sending shit to was misspelled? What is your motive? If you have nothing to gain from your tirade then why do you continue.
Take a time out and e-mail me directly, shit call me, you have my math. Otherwise you ain’t added nothing that this forum needs to grow on.
Nothing except a skewed sense of humor and the choice to pop the bubbles of the Pompous XXL’s VIBES and other self appointed cultural dictators who try to force their wack ass fashion, musical and dress tastes on a community that is light years hipper than them. The difference between me and Herc (other than his 350 pound muscular frame) is that a lot of what I do is tongue in cheek and a stab at both humor, an attempt to pull back the curtain of rigid seriousness and self righteous blather that we are surrounded by. I seldom if ever want to be malicious except to the TI’s and their ass licking flunkies. I love you Dallas (II) and this site and all of the quirky shit you write, mumble and muse about and your attempt to speak on bigger issues of justice, peace, union solidarity, sodomy, comic books, tennis shoes and over paid sports figures, but please chill………
PS Fuck XXL and dey mammas. My story about the white girl was the God honest truth and it made me sick to my stomach to see those men turn bitch in front of a child of The Supremacy. Love ya like cooked food. Ernie
Hey Ernie don’t even think about bailing or even putting that shit to a vote!!!
Mu Dude!!!! Whats good man I feel you on this post. At the end of the day te world of Hip Hop will keep moving just like errthing else. I for one moved boxes out Yn’s cribbo before and I must say the spoon is silver so he gon’ be aight if he got chips stacked. As for the rest of us watch this fuuckery and count the days:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
This comment area is wild emo today… geez.
Deep apologizes to Elliot Wilson and XXl. I have seen the light. For 2008 it’s all love, peace and flowers. They are kind, good decent, articulate, good hearted people and if I failed to see how wonderful and visionary they are it is my shortcoming not theirs. I take back all that TI rubbish as well. I have nothing but love and respect for them Vibe, Bet. MTV, Bill O’Reilly. George Bush, Condaleeza Rice and most of all my main man Dick Cheney. Hilllary , Guiliani and all the other people that work so hard and so unselfishly to help make this a better, greener, safer world. No more nasty blood diamonds remarks about Russell, no more snide remarks about Jay Z and Denzel for pushing the American gangster film and album. All love. Forgive me for any unkind, unwise, harsh remarks I may have made in the past. Peace, Love and Kindness, Your Humble Servant Ernie Paniccioli