Instead of trying to stop people from using the word nigger we should be trying to have as many people use the word as possible. That is how you put the word in its proper place. For generations it has been a term of derision for African Americans and no Black people have been courageous enough to study the roots of the word. Not the Alex Haley ‘Roots’ which are powerful for sure, but the etymology roots, the beginnings, the genesis, the O.G. usage. It wasn’t a bad word in the beginning because it described someone’s occupation.
In America we have done such a good job of reconfiguring language that most of us don’t recognize what we are describing when we talk. That’s why your cousin Billy Sunday comes here to XXL Mag Dot Com. I come to bring the light to the dark. Not that Dark, because I don’t think he has the mental capacity to go in too deep. The dark in the figurative obfuscated sense. I imagine that’s why most of you come to these threads in the first place. You want someone to make some semblance of sense out of this fucked the fuck up American pie. Since you came through, let’s go in…
The roots of the word nigger are northern European. The Dutch settlers that came to America to find their fortune were land owners back in their old country. Who else would have the scrilla to contract a ship to bring them across the Atlantic? These wealthy land owners were enticed at the idea of the Americas being a land of gold and riches. In order to build their settlements and their communities over here similar to the establishments they held in Europe they had to bring their entire staff as well.
You don’t think they made their sons and daughters build their houses do you? That back breaking manual labor was the job for their indentured servants. The settlers charged their servants money to come over here. The idea was that the settler would grant their servants a plot of land to live and which to farm just as they did in the Netherlands or whatever they called that shit they came from. What the settlers realized was that there was a shitload of land here in the Americas and to settle all of it, because let’s be honest, when is white ever gonna be happy with just owning half of everything, they would need more laborers.
The Indians were bad laborers. Now when I say Indians I am referring to the ancestors of the dudes that drink too much and own all the fucking casinos. Not the dudes that can’t hold down their liquor and own all the Qwik-E-Marts. Those are hindudes. We’ll get to them in a minute. The Indians were lousy servants because they had this funky attitude like “Why should we work for y’all motherfuckers when we was living here, eating deer, and minding our own business?” The settlers then decided to merc’k the Indians something like how the Red Sox are gonna kick Cleveland’s ass. Except the settlers did that shit more fly than the Red Sox. The settlers handed out blankets filled with smallpox.
Back to the issue at hand… Where would the settlers get more of the laborers and farmers that they need to capitalize on all the open space that the Indians were giving them? The key industry that made the Americas so valuable wasn’t so much precious metals or minerals, but agricultural products. Unlike Europe, which was mostly craggy and cold, the Americas were a fertile, healthy landscape where all types of plants, fruits and vegetables prospered in. You know how much cake you could make in Europe selling agricultural products? Wild amounts. The settlers needed bodies to help them stack that guap, ya’ dig?!? But even better than bodies, the settlers needed specialized farmers.
In the old country farmers were the backbone of the community. You could trust the man that spent his waking hours digging in the dirt or driving the team. The plowman was literally the salt of the Earth. This motherfucker walked behind the team of animals and by the end of the day he was up to his knees in shit and animal piss, because you can’t tell an ox or a mule when or where to shit and piss. They do that shit and it becomes fertilizer for the crops. That’s why the plowman can’t come into the house to eat. Mom dukes ain’t having that fool track animal shit all around the house. The plowman sits out back and gets his meals sent through the kitchen window. In Germany, or Deutschland, or whatever the fuck they called that shit, the plowman was called the negger. That described his job. That’s what the people called him. No big deal either, and keep in mind this is whites calling other whites this shit.
At that point in time the human condition didn’t separate themselves by skin complexion, but by language and respective nationality. The idea of using skintone as a system for separating people was adopted by the Europeans from the hindudes who had a setup that divided their priests from their farmers and manual laborers. The hindudes caste system appeared to the Europeans as social stratification according to skintone since the priests were essentially lighter skinned than the farmers. No big surprise to me though since the farmers were outdoors all of the time. Anyhoo, the Europeans never really bother to ask questions about shit they don’t understand, they shoot first and let God do all the sorting and paperwork. The Europeans needed farmers in the Americas and there were some damn good farmers in Africa, or Nubia, or whatever the fuck they called that shit back then. The Europeans had found their neggers.
At that time the Europeans from the north called dark skinned people Schwarz. That’s the Deutschland word for black. The Europeans struck a deal with the a-rabs from the Mediterraenean region to deliver them some of the best farmers and laborers from the fertile regions inside central Africa, or Nubia, or… You know where the fuck I’m talking about. The a-rabs have been doing this slave ship since the Code of Hammurabi days so that was nothing for them. The a-rabs were slick and they played the Africans against one another. They basically had the Hebrew farmers in the central region stuck up by the gentile Africans. Most of you so-called Black people here in America are actually Jews, but that is a whole ‘nother Sunday school drop.
Check this foxy shit out… White don’t play that shit when it comes to keeping his stacks in order. Why you think he labeled an area of Africa the ivory coast? Or the gold coast? Because that is where he steals that shit from. That dude is so hardbody that he labels the map to tell him where to go to get the natural resource he wants. He labeled a whole region in central Africa NEGGER because that was the shit he was mining from that region. Negger eventually begets Niger just like tomatoe begets tomato. They are the same things no matter how they are spelled now. Shitloads of schwarze neggers are brought to the Americas from Africa.
FYI, Billy X. Sunday Fun Fact: Schwarze Negger = Black Plowman
Back to the lesson… The schwarze naggers aren’t just brought to America for their agricultural skills and their labor. They are brought here under a systemic organized platform of terror. Families are purposely separated. People from the same ‘hood are also divided and deposited in different areas. There was never a system of slavery on this planet that treated the human with such an utter lack of humanity. Being a plowman was never this bad. America’s neggers were the beasts of burden and not the oxen. Let’s face it though. If you are gonna do some shit that is fucked the fuck up you might as well do it like you’re doing it for t.v. Despite all the bullshit these neggers perservered. I call that God’s sense of grace, because there were millions of people that didn’t survive the four months at sea in the cramped hull of a boat while they slept in their shit, piss, vomit and blood. If you ended up in America you were meant to be here.
Fast forward past all that Civil War shit to the time in America when manufacturing and industrialization supplanted agriculture as the steam machine that powered our GDP/GNP. America began to develop a class of people that were not land owners nor farmers. The people that still worked in agriculture typically did not own the lands that they labored upon. There were African Americans that were becoming educated and even land owners themselves. This is when the word nigger becomes a slur. It no longer describes the persons occupation, but in a manner it assigns a caste to the person. To tell someone that no matter how straight their hair is, or how fancy their clothes are they will always be subservient is a statement of social mobility.
The word nigger was used mostly by the transplanted immigrants from Germany and Ireland. They escaped famine and disease in their former homelands only to find that America was not so much the land of wealth as it was the land where you maintained a racial hegemony. If you didn’t maintain this color line you jeopardized your possibility at achieving the ultimate cultural lottery ticket which was to step into the ruling class. This is how supremacy works and it is the obligation of white to keep this shit rocking or else we could have a chink as the president one day. Yeah racism sucks wild balls, but what other choices do we have? I don’t care who your favorite rapper is, racism, and the word nigger is here to stay.
The reason I give you this drop today is to support NaSir Jones and the projected title of his latest album. White created the word nigger and they used to call each other the word too. Most likely as a term of affection I might add. I can see some old European land owner standing on his porch and looking over his land as Johann or Bernhard or whatever the fuck his name was worked in the field. That’s when the land owner would say to his fellow land owner, “Johann is my nigger.” I don’t think it’s right to forbid white from using the word nigger, especially not from forbidding him to call other white nigger either. How else are white going to be able to request the title track from NaS’ new album on the radio? You know white is going to be buying that shit too.
Now that we have agreed on the name for NaS’ new album can we help my nigga select some beats?
this cat dallas penn is the cornel west of the blog game, dropping some serious knowledge, on the beat tip, the neptunes, marco polo, the beatnuts, doom, earl blaze, pete rock, premo, 4th disciple, alchemist, i could do this all day…
i remember your nigger post at xxl bol’s to but when you try to tell that to the average black person. they give you that look like the white man done warped your mind boy. i have linked people to those people post. i will link this to people as well because in the end all you can try to do is teach your fellow man. also i saw the craziest thing on the history channel before the slaves kingdoms in africa where owned by african people. which means they sold us to the white people. my question why the fuck they so mad at us they the reason we over here. in the end though we all have to see slavery for what it is. who ever has the power takes over the weak. if i have a village you have a village. we having some problems we go to war but my village is stronger. i could wipe your village off the face of the map or you could work for me for free. then we do the usual lie and twist the truth so your kids and there kids think that heh your purpose in the world is to serve us. mental or physical abuse keeps all slaves in check if you get real smart with. you could hold a nation without even being there you can correct me if i am wrong didn’t a couple european countries have control over a couple asians countries. they would get money and resources from them and like in 100 years or something you can have your depleted land back. they was living off them from years from some shit that went down a long time ago. again i say correct me if i am wrong i know the dutch was doing it for sure. well fuck all that i gotta end this rant. knowledge can only be obtained if you choose to accept it. remember the past take it with you but don’t recycle the hate. what happened to my grandparents didn’t happen to me. what happened to my parents didn’t happen to me. remember what happened but don’t let those thoughts weigh you down. effect the way you treat other races if you do you will always be stuck in the same spot. well folks off to go check out that ufc joint it’s about to start soon
No words…just letters. An acronym, if you will.
DPFTMFW!
This gets better with each read
the word Nigger or NGR is of African descent. It means union or tying together or human but since i dont feel like typing today im gonna cut and paste some other shit i ranted about a long time ago…probably just as long ago as when Dallas wrote this piece.here u go kiddies
myspace.com/moneymercilesz1
March 28th, 2007
Chuck D is totally incorrect by saying Nigger is not an african word. NGR is the ankh formation which comes out of nubia and forms all of the tying together words in the “western world”. NGR means black in french and spanish.There are no vowels in Meroitic,Egyptian,Hebrew, or Arabic.(the 1st languages of the world). The Hebrew L is the egyptian R which is why the foreigners call the Nile the Nile. The G is an I and a J and last but not least a K. The CoNGo is named NGR the NIGER is named NGR Negro Is named NGR NOIR is named NGR. These words are all influenced by the AFRICAN who created WORDS.Now the ANKH is an Ancient Egyptian symbol which means to tie things together,more importantly mommy daddy and child. This is Y King is written in the ankh formation.King is the master of all things tied together rather the material world and the knowledge about it.King in Zulu is NKOSI. The word Join is in the same formation as is neck ankle knee knife anchor angle knot ….I can go on but u get the idea.THIS IS THE ANKH FORMATION WHICH FORMS ALL JOINING WORDS AND EXISTS IN ALL LANGUAGES ON EARTH.IT WAS NUBIA BEFORE EGYPT AND IT WILL NEVER LEAVE BECAUSE LANGUAGE ORIGINATED IN PLACE AT ONE TIME.BY THE WAY WE ALL BELIEVE IN THE SAME GODS WHICH ARE THE SUN MOON AND STARS SO STOP SAYING DUMB SHIT ABOUT WHICH ONE IS REAL. THEY ARE ALL REAL BECAUSE THEY WILL BE HERE WHEN U DIE AND THEY WERE HERE BEFORE U WERE CONCIEVED.sorry for the rant.LOve the Interview though. Peace
Saying that all language comes from one place is horribly dumb. Parallel diffusion is the occurrence of seemingly random acts taken place simultaneously. Man didn’t harness the use of fire in one location but at the same time in various places.
The word NIGGAR is Germanic (not Germany, but Dutch/European and describes the person doing the toughest, most menial work in agriculture.
Does the Dutch language have roots in Africa? In the most esoteric and disconnected sense since all people have a common ancestor in the old skeletons found in Ethiopia, but the Dutch clearly were into naming their colonies after the raw materials they would extract from them. Gold coast, ivory coast, you get the point…
Don’t be afraid to return the word NIGGAR back to the Europeans for their use amongst themselves. The division of classes is the only thing that makes people feel any value within their lives so I vote for allowing the word to be issued when people want to describe someone that is undervalued and under-appreciated like the folks that farm and prepare our foods. The people that drive our children to school and the folks that pick up ourt trash in the middle of the night while we sleep.
All these people are niggers no matter what their skin complexion and they all keep us alive while we talk shit on the internets.
YO, DP, Brilliant!!! My adult A.D.D was kicking in after the first paragraph, so, for the first time in my life I use the Speech function on my MAC..I just laughed my balls off for the past 5 minutes.. Your words and the apple computerized voice are an instant Classic!! Well Done son!
naaa Dallas…Nigger is african…If you belive in evolution then you can believe in the transplanting of african people religion and culture throughout the world by way of migration. If you believe in the debunked pseudoscientific polygenetic theory of the beginning of man then Africa plays no role in the development of the world. Everybody just uses the same words and gods just because it worked out that way and the egyptian title tsar isnt the english sir or the russian czar or the german kaiser or the roman caesar they just happened to meet up one day and say yeah this word means he who holds the whip. Or maybe the egyptian ngr isnt king or koening or knight or nkosi or ngyuen or knee or neck or knowledge or to know or knife or join or joint or ankle or anchor or knot or anyword in any other language other than egyptian that means to tie together just as the ankh ties together mommy daddy and child. or birth life and death
to put it plainly nigger/ngr means human or to tie two things together in a union like the nile(ngr) which consists of the union between the white and the blue nile(ngr)
mercilesz,
Did you ever read this drop? Or do you just like to hear yourself talk?
The historical use of the word niggar wasn’t for disrespect but to describe someone’s occupation. In the short history of the civilization of humans on Earth the farmer aka the plowman aka the nigger was the MOST important person in the community. He knew the cycle of the sun, moon and stars and when to plant the seeds and sow the soil. This was the dude that sustained the community.
Are you some kind of meatsauce? Who cares if the word nigger is the evolved form of Egypt’s NGR?!? Read this post please before you place another comment. What does the relevancy of Egypt etymology have to do with the indentured servants that were brought here from Europe to be the niggars to the settlers? What the fux does the ankh have to do with the US adoption of industrialization over agriculture as an economic system? When people were taught to disrespect the farmer aka the plowman aka the niggar because sharecropping did not have the class status because of industrialization is when this word becomes disrespectful.
Do you understand that?
I like the fact that you will come here and take time to leave your two cents, but if you keep putting wooden nickels on my page I’m gonna block your ass[ll] until you get your mind tight and your money right (no Memph Bleek is)
i think they are just reading the title and then dropping comments.
Enjoyed it when it dropped on XXL and enjoyed reading it here.
Hold up Dallas next time i roll up in NY you and I gonna be hitting some Baijiu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baijiu
and then we see who can’t hold who’s liquor. Cause i own that shit.
@merc & dp
I see the discussion. Y’all may not be seeing eye to eye, but both of you are dropping knowledge & information. Y’all on the same side of a proverbial fence looking through two completely different holes.
Naaa i read it but the question you have to ask yourself is why do all people of the world use the same words. The knowledge of the sun moon and stars left africa with the africans and so did everything else including language. Ngr is the name for humanity/wisemen/ and divinity throughout the world and this is a fact. If you would like to talk about serfdom/feudalism/ or being land bound and the need for labor then you are talking about the history of a particular economic state. If you are talking about the origins of words :
The word NIGGAR is Germanic (not Germany, but Dutch/European and describes the person doing the toughest, most menial work in agriculture.
Don’t be afraid to return the word NIGGAR back to the Europeans for their use amongst themselves.
Then you are talking about etymology and not the physical history of a particular state. Therefore you really didnt have to write anything about the word nigger at all and could have just talked about the economic and historical conditions of the region to which you refered. What I am trying to get people to understand is that the reason why you find that word being used among the germanic tribes, the east indians(the Naga) and the modern day speakers of broken latin(examples: negro,noir,nigeria,niger,nigger) is because the african system of writing which incorporated the ankh system and is the progenitor of all language on earth is still in tact everywhere and remained so when the africans left the continent. Not is not knot.there should be no k in front of that word knot…unless knot is tying things together in union. I was dealing with the etymological aspect of your peace,I had no reason to refer to the historical Just as you really had no reason to refer to the etymological. peace
@KD that Baijiu i gotta check that stuff out. see if they serve it at the sushi spot i like to go to.
Mercz,
Yes and yes, the origins of language written and spoken is African. However, the region called Nigeria on the continent we now refer to as Africa was named thus by people I would not call Africans. If you want to submit that it was Africans by default then that is your business. With the migrations of people and the cultures created to adapt to those conditions the meanings of words have been altered ever so slightly.
This drop here is all about the word NEGGAR which is coming from North Eastern Europe. It has nothing to do with the ankh anymore than the steel that was once used to support the Third Ave el was sold off to Japan and prA’li smelted down into bullets that were used to fire on allied forces. From the vantage point of someone in the crosshairs being shot at what the steel was used for twenty years prior is of liitle to no consequence compared to what it is being used of at the moment.
I stay in the moment which is to say I’m all about the future
This is an amazing read. Well done, sir.
Merc sounds like a character in Black Dynamyte when they try to discover how the drugs are in the malt liquor.
No offense. I’m just saying
“Now that we have agreed on the name for NaS’ new album can we help my nigga select some beats?”
Okay, Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind does the entire album. Maybe stick a large pro beat in there somewhere, but thats it.
Dallas a lot of these dudes are not willing to accept the fact that we were not Africans but Jews in Africa. You got any references outside of the Bible that can further substantiate these facts?
Rakimfan@gmail.com (most unnecessary screen name of all time – kudos),
Facts don’t need substantiating because they are… FACTS.
Who doesn’t believe that you or I are jews doesn’t really matter. Do you believe that you are here to teach men about humanity and their larger purpose to one another? That is all that matters at the end of the day. Your belief, and your actions here to forward.
BUT…
If you have little faith I would direct you to a book called ‘We, the Black Jews: Witness to the ‘White Jewish Race’ Myth’ by Dr. Yosef A. ben-Jochannan. This is required reading for all Jews.
Another book that you might want to crack open is “Brownsville, Brooklyn: Blacks, Jews, and the Changing Face of the Ghetto”. This joint was focused on the dynamic of white flight from the urban center and the vacuum in social services that it creates. This is a good joint to peep as you get ready to begin your teachings.
Lastly, please peep ‘They Came Before Columbus’ by Gladstone Van Sertima (RIP).
This drop was entertaining.
Laughably wrong in a lot of ways, right in a very few, but entertaining nonetheless. It reminded me of one of those self-educated prisoner skits from In Living Color.
Sad thing is there are several gems of actual truth buried under a whole hill of bullshit here.
Don’t be a sad coward. You have fear of a Black planet just like your forefathers
“Sad thing is there are several gems of actual truth buried under a whole hill of bullshit here.”
i love people who cry bullshit but bring up no points. at least mercilesz said his part.
Dope post. Waiting for Billy to go in on the Hebrew knowledge for the win.
Nigger, negger goes a little deeper than Europe though.
http://blackhistory.tribe.net/thread/a94531d2-1077-42e4-9261-b6ce05bfe58d
Is a start.
you black people are full of shit. with your small monkey brains you talk only nonsense. it’s amazing how grandiose you black people are and self-righteous. i don’t hate black people, but i hate the way they think. you always make up such senseless bullshit stories. you black people think you were the only ones going thru hard times. you think you are so special. don’t you black people see in actuality see you are the ones that are keeping racism alive, claiming a black god, black jesus, black brotherhood etc.? you know nothing about history and no one does. i don’t care what happaned in the past. i care about where we are going in the future. none of you is wiser than God who is Allah and is greater than anything in the universe and since he’s above humans he’s neither black nor white
i know it’s not easy being black especially in america. but if you keep blaming the white man all the time…whoa. the actual slavers were white jews. today the world is in the hands of the zionists. black people please…cut out the white and black bullshit. there are many poor and opressed white people too and europe is not that cold since southern europe is right next to africa and it’s warm and fertile, mediterranean. i agree jesus was dark skinned of course since he lived in the middle east which is right next to africa and it’s desert, but….we are all humans. those whites that do evil to blacks and hate blacks, do not worry about them. trust them to God. we as humans are not perfect and have our sinful natures. we are all human beings despite superficial differences due to climate and environment, but we are all the creations of Allah. the quran says; prophet muhammads army was made up of white, black and red soldiers. man shall not watch skin color. it does not matter what color the prophets were, but what they did. black people please…just give praises to God and stop being hateful like the kkk or other racist people. whether a man is white or black, he’s still a man and a human. i know the white man had done nuff wrong to you black people, but know there are nuff white people that intermarry with black people and are not prejudiced towards black folks. again trust every matter pon earth to God. and remember God has no color since he cannot be compared to man. Allah is greater than man and everything in the universe since he’s the creator of everything.
YOU are so far off the origin of the word niger till it’s ridiculous. The DUTCH people, as the original word indicate, were black. You really need a REAL lesson on world history, terminology and ancient languages. Niger never mean black person or even related to the color black.