Editor’s Note: I am dropping this Re-Up Gang post for the grown azz men and women that come to this site for real talk about sex and health issues. For years I had been telling the people that something wasn’t right with the way Black women are picking up the AIDS like it’s a fried fish dinner from the church fundraising night. One of my readers from Canada got on her grind and wrote me back. Peep the technique…
My weblog readers are sharp as hell and they responded when I said that Nonoxynol-9 should be blamed for the recent spike in HIV contraction among African American women…
Dallas,
I have recently come across some interesting information that I thought was important to share with you, even though I’m sure most of it you know already. Basically, nonoxynol 9 is horrible stuff and no one should use it. Don’t look at me as a horrid skank, I just think the fact that you can even buy condoms with this stuff in it is absurd. Plus I find the level of ignorance in Canada regarding the delicate vaginal ecosystem terrifying and am doing my best to combat it. All I have to say is, yay for private health care.
This is a World Health Organization article on N-9 saying that it may encourage the contraction of HIV and herpes, doesn’t prevent cervical gonorrhoea, and chlamydia, and causes yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis in women.
WHO officials heard of an increasing number of complaints by women using spermicides and contraceptive sponges with nonoxynol-9 who experienced vaginal and cervical ulcers, burning sensations, and recurring yeast infections.
They are not exactly sure why but they think that nonoxynol-9 can disrupt the epithelium, or wall, of the vagina, thereby potentially facilitating invasion by an infective organism.
http://www.ehn.clara.net/chemicals.html
Women who use diaphragms with Nonoxynol-9 (N9) spermicides have twice to three and a half times the risk of contracting a urinary tract infection (UTI). The spermicide inhibits the growth of normal, beneficial vaginal bacteria that naturally protect against infections such as lactobacilli and gardnerella vaginalis, thus encouraging the overgrowing of the harmful bacterium escherichia coli (E-coli). Condoms are another major source of exposure to N9. Spermicide-coated condoms were responsible for 42% of E coli UTIs among women who were exposed to these products.
Info from a healthy sex site:
How does Nonoxynol-9 work against HIV?
HIV is a virus that has a fatty membrane around it, just like our own cells have. Nonoxynol-9 is essentially a detergent. Detergents cut through grease, and that’s exactly how N-9 kills HIV and other sexually transmitted infections. But it only does the job in a test tube. What we found in this study was that once you put N-9 in a woman’s vagina, it will also cut through the fat of her cells, which makes it easier for HIV to get into those cells. Women who are highly exposed to N-9 actually show ulceration on the tissues of the vagina, and those ulcers can enhance the ability of HIV to get in. The same holds true for men. The rectum is even more vulnerable than the vagina to the effects of N-9.
Problematic case study from Canada:
Of 64 women commercial sex workers in Canada who used condoms lubricated with nonoxynol-9, 28 reported vaginal discharge, five reported increased thrush infection and four reported a burning sensation or numbness. Another study found 43 percent of women suffer irritation. Dr. Malcolm Potts, Secretary of International Family Health said studies on the spermicide had been very inadequate and more research was needed.
Here is a great article from Wired magazine, which claims N-9 doesn’t do much for contraception either.
And here is an article from the WHO stating (on page 7 of the PDF) that there is no conclusive evidence that condoms with N-9 prevent pregnancy better than other lubricants in vitro.
what are the non n-9 options? or does trojan make w/ and without versions?
Where is the FDA on this? I have never heard of increased ulceration…that is a damn shame! There is something to be said for being married to the same guy for 16 years…this is truly one of the benefits!
its def true that N-9 causes disruption of the vag’s ecosystem and makes it ezier to get all types of things like the UTIs, yeast, ulcers, and all kinds of nasty shit, i only know cuz i had a gf who only would use rubbers with spermicide on em and she always seemed to have something wrong with her vag that freaked me out, i’m def sending this to her…good informative read, something DEF needs to be done about this!
another rousing endorsement for Trojan Magnums….no N-9 just good old rubber!!
This is highly informative. Good info.
^miss ahmad, I think that’s another rousing endorsement for staying with one person. Sleeping around, casual sex, or whatever people are doing with various-multiple-unknown partners is effing people the eff up as Dallas would say.
Who knows if HIV/AIDS will be like the Great Influenza virus but I know I’m not cheating on my lady at all.
Good looking on the information Dallas, I guess that’s why I keep coming back to this blog. And oh yeah, Laguardia+MLK JR high was lunch meat but I made it through 4 yrs. unscathed.
Sangano, just use latex condoms that don’t say “spermicide” on them: you don’t need to kill any sperm, they get blocked by the latex. Lubricated is fine.
I had sista’s tell me years ago that the N-9 didn’t agree with them….course back then I wanted to hit it raw…hooray for growing up!
..the question is if this is known, why isn’t this being pulled off?
N-9 was the base product in the sponge which was a very popular contraceptive in the late 80’s and early 90’s. There was even a Seinfeld episode about men being “sponge worthy” when the supply ran dry. it was pulled due to these complications Dallas is talking about and the fact that damn near everyone i know still got preggers using it.
sleeping around in this day in age is a rather costly endeavor, meaning it could cost you your life but these diseases and viruses don’t only belong to people with scarlett letters on their jackets. it could happen to anyone.
Rubber is good. latex works. abstaining is what works best but most people i know don’t know how to abstain, although it’s my thought that they should learn…at least for a little while.