Now that you have helped him wrap up the Democratic Party’s nomination, all you folks that have been contributing your free time and hard-earned dollars to the OBAAMA campaign need to send homeboy an e-mail telling him to leave ol’ girl off the ticket.
I mean didn’t this spoilsport just try to get sonn merc’ked?!?
crazy!
The big question that’s on the table at the moment is how and will Hillary fully support the democratic nominee? Will she influence those 18 million registered voters to vote for her opponent with full vigor and support from the Clinton political machine? Will Bill Clinton put his full weight of support behind the Senator from Illinois?
Tidbit:
How will the Illinois Senator voting record hold up from now till November?
We know he’s not Muslim but will the GOP go after his paternal siblings?
And do you think you will hear the phrase “typical white person” any time soon?
Where are the independents? You know the voiceless candidates without the million dollar coffers?
The reason he scares them is because he is young and hasn’t been able to build up the dirt most people have.
If Hillary wants on the ticket she should have to fight Michelle in a 10 round bout.
EFF Hilary (II)
Obama….select a candidate with real military experience, a true voting record and with some pull in DC. If he feels the need to select a female….Nancy Pelosi would be a better candidate.
Dude scares me ’cause he makes no sense. He voted to limit the number of temporary work visas given to immigrants, but voted no to deny access to immigrants that have been convicted aggravated felonies into the U.S. Then when Bush’s crowd is making all kind of phone tapping legal, the man is sliding out the back door, not voting on the issue, not taking a stand for “change”. Then you look at all the votes he missed while he was out campaigning. To me, actions are louder than words.
Real change = Ron Paul, but ya’ll don’t hear me though.
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490
@1969, I think a white military guy, whose military career sons McCain, would be useful in sonning ol McSame in Nov. Wes Clark or Jim Webb. Clark is also a HillaRove supporter, so Obama could say he’s “reaching out” to the HillaRove voters by picking Clark.
Think about how now McSame discounts Obama’s Iraq war stance, since Obama never served in the military. Obama could be like, “McCain, my weed carrier here Wes Clark was the HNIC General of the 90s Balkans war, & he also wants to end the Iraq war. Fock outta here with your military bragging as a substitute for a coherent foreign policy steez”
if Obama picks a woman VP, he should get a governor like KS’ Kathleen Sebelius. A good governor will have good “executive experience”, which Obama & HillaRove both don’t have.
Supposedly HillaRove & some of her supporters will be furious if Obama picks a non-HillaRove woman as the VP. So much for HillaRove claiming her campaign “was for all women”. HillaRove only cares about HillaRove.
@EGC – I’ve been a Wesley Clark fan since he was ballsy enough to use his military acumen to drop dung on Afghanistan/Iraq back in very early 2002. It was interesting because it was based on his military knollie and political reasons seemed way down on the list for his reasoning. I have dude on my short list of VP hopefulls, and you gave another great reason why.
@J
“Ron Paul”…hahahahaha…. GTFOHWTBS.
If Obama spoke like EGC types I would vote for him twice (no FL hanging chads).
@xcx
Nice response, wholeme, real educated. No defense for Obama being all talk, eh? …typical… Enjoy your “change”. :thumps up:
LMAO @ XCX “GTFOHWTBS” I feel you though.
Obama ’08
@J™,
That “all talk” label is played…that’s mainly what politicians do…they talk, then they sign. Unless you wanna show me someone on some Che shyt digging ditches on the national volunteer day…cept that was a communist regime.
OK, he doesn’t do what he says he’s going to do, better? Look at the examples I posted, with a non-bias link proving them to be true. Dude is full of shit.
I don’t know. This shit always gets me worked up, ’cause I see people getting conned on this “change” bull shit. I just think people are jumping the gun on this guy. Everybody is falling for the young rock star status. The hype got cho’ brains on this one. Honestly, Tiffany, XCX, how much time have you spent researching this man … honestly? Or, do you just let people tell you he’s all good, and that’s enough for you? If you have researched the man, can you tell what policies of his that he would like to implement that you support? If you think the state of this country is fucked the fuck up now, wait about two three years from now.
@J, personally I took this quick 20-minute quiz
http://glassbooth.org/
For me Obama’s policies were better than HillaRove, McSame, & Ron Paul per this quiz. A few other Dem cats slightly outscored Obama, but that’s irrelevant now since Obama is the nominee.
When asked by a reporter “what’s your 1st priority should you take office in 2009”, Obama said (paraphrasing) “restore the parts of the Constitution destroyed by WOAT Bush”. Obama was a Constitution law professor. Obama was part of the Dem Senators, led by Chris Dodd, to vote against immunity for telecom companies ignoring FISA & illegally spying on Americans. McSame voted for immunity. HillaRove, the self-proclaimed “great leader”, was 1 of the BITCHMADE 2 senators out of 100 that did not vote.
Iraq war, Obama was always against from the start until now. Contrast that with McSame & HillaRove.
Obama along with Richard Lugar, have supported a much greater effort to track nuclear material from the ex-USSR countries. Of course, doing so would mean that terrorist attacks would be limited to maybe 3k people dying, instead of say 100K dying with a “dirty bomb”.
J, I “denounce & reject” your notion that all Obama voters are caught in the “hype” or “change” message. For me Obama is clearly superior on the ISSUES than McCain & HillaRove.
BTW J, many have said that many of the Ron Paul supporters, are “PAULTARDS”, who are swept up in Paul’s “hype”, & don’t really know Paul’s issues. I’m not saying that. Paul has some good issues on the Iraq War & reforming the Fed Reserve & fiat money system. I’m just showing that 2 can play your “hype” game.
Gringo, thanks for the response.
I’m in agreement that Obama is a much better choice than Hillary and McBush, but that’s still not enough for me. Most of my values and opinions fall towards Paul, mainly the gold standard, lower taxes, chopping the government’s size, getting out of NAFTA, and not sticking our noses in other’s people’s business.
I hear you on the “Paultards”. I see it every day. In my experiences though, it’s been the Obama supporters that talk nothing but “change” and don’t know the issues. Your experiences may be different. I’m just sayin’.
On to Obama restoring the constitution, if he’s really real about it, why did he not vote on the amendment to expand FISA(domestic wiretapping)?http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=17101&can_id=9490 Ron Paul lets his actions speak over his words. I can’t put my confidence in a man that doesn’t back up his words.
To each their own, on who you want, but those quizzes are pretty faulty because how vague the answers to choose from are. I took a couple of those and the candidate selected was way off from my views. I’ve everybody from Kucinich to Romney being the one that was “the best for me”.
@J™
I resigned myself to the fact that voting is really a gamble of who’s worse a long time ago. Anyone who can be named as being “good” usually has some bad policies they passed through as well. The issue is that the only way the president can really change things in a big way is if he has support from Senate and Congress and the people…or he goes hard like Bush and says, “Fuck you, Pay me”.
Nobody it getting into office to make the kinds of changes I want made (for real). What’s killing me is what has he said that he didn’t do? On the other hand what politician has done everything they said they would? The only reason I even vote for democrats is because they put more money in my field and they don’t serve business en masse. No politician will ever save us.
Any democratic voting in senate now is null…they have no majority and if republicans want it and the Prez is on it it’s passing. The GI Bill passed cause it’s for soldiers and that’s like drafting a bill to help 9/11 families…it always looks good. Look at how many democratic bills or whatever have just been killed. Repubs have philibustered more in the last few years then ever. Ron Paul has his issues as well.
Really the best reason to vote for Obama is his age. We’ve been dying under baby-boomers (or older) for too long. Time for the country to stop electing people who are within 5 years of collecting social security.
clickable link
http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=17101&can_id=9490
so J, are you gonna vote, & if so, who? Obama? Barr (Libertarian)? Paul ain’t running 3rd party in Nov.
The problem with all 3rd party cats and the really good thing about obama is this…most of them (3rd party) know they really can’t win so they will speak to the extreme (no matter if they come from left or right). Obama has been as extreme as any major party person has been and he’s the nominee. I don’t really think change will come through either party because the Hegelian dialectic is in full effect. So I’m with anyone who can skirt the edges and is willing to stand apart, if only to shake things up…that is still supported by their party. Ron Paul isn’t even 3rd Party…but running as a republican and talking the way he does he might as well be and thus he’s pushed to the side.
@ Gringo, I’ll be writing in Ron Paul. I know it may be “worthless”, but it is what is. I just can’t bring myself to support neo-cons or socialism, just can’t do it.
J™,
Ron Paul IS socialism. If the U.S. returned to the gold standard in order to give our currency some value it would wipe out the savings of all the middle class. Just like Russia used to do, we would be on long ass lines waiting for the government to give us shit like toilet paper. You had better hope your house was already clear because you wouldn’t be able to handle the mortgage payments.
Ron Paul, like Dennis Kucinnich is a great one-issue candidate. He opens up one issue that means a lot to people and somehow we think he is prescient over all other matters. Where was Ron Paul when the Senate gave away our rights to privacy? Oh yeah, he found that acceptable.